No It reflects the state of the American people. Wilson is the only one brave enough to say what everybody else knowsl

Absolutely. There is no Republican party any longer, it's a radical Christian Conservative party big on rancor and light on substance.

What is your definition of "state" If you mean pissed off the Obama has been lying and that there is no effort from the Democrats to be bipartisan, as Obama promised, then the answer is yes.

His outburst only shows the Republican Party's willingness not to accept an African American as our President. I don't feel it has anything to do with the issues.

They have become a bitter party that seems unwilling to change, listen to differing opinions, and even remotely see the other side.

Of course, some want to play this out for as long as they can. Some hope to make Rep Wilson grovel and kvetch. Others are wondering that there were not more Republican Congressmen to follow his example, and incensed when they distanced themselves from the incident.
When playing partisan games, we can observe Ted Kennedy shaking his head and scowling during Bush's SOU address, or then-Senator Hillary Clinton yawning and staring at the ceiling during Bush's 9/11 address (I would have thought a devastating attack in a Senator's state would hold their attention).
This latest incident is but a sample of things to come from both parties. The aftermath is that many want to discuss the incident rather than do the job the taxpayers pay them to do. Since there is little productivity in Congress, it is time to replace them with people who are mission oriented.

It is one thing to glare and shake your head in disagreement at a president, as Ted Kennedy did to George W. Bush. It is another to scream and heckle the president. Had a Democrat actually screamed at GWB that he was a liar, heads would have rolled.

The Republican Party has devolved into the party of religious extremism and corporate cronyism, unwilling to give one inch to actually help the people they supposedly serve.

Folks, I realize Rep Wilson was rude, and spoke out of turn.
But, when someone makes a statement, and another claims the statement is false, there is only truth.
THerefore, in a short time, we will learn whether this plan is available to illegals or not. Either Wilson was right, or he was wrong. For Joe The Taxpayer's sake, I hope Wilson is wrong.

It's just like the town hall protests, planned by the Republicans to disrupt the debate rather than work to actually fix problems. Scorched earth politics.

The GOP has no leadership. The GOP continues to be embroiled in multitudes of sexual scandals, the latest being the fat nasty ass Mike Duvall. As a result, they have lost their social values\family values platform. They ran up a trillion dollar deficit that was inherited by the current administration, so they've lost their fiscal platform as well. They have no viable candidates for 2012. Everyone from Palin to Pawlenty is damaged in some way and can't win a majority of voters. I don't see any GOP candidates that can pull moderate and fiscal Democrats to the GOP. The GOP has angered minorities. McCain's two-faced approach toward Sotomayor, combined with the GOP's opposing stance on Immigration Reform, has alienated Latinos. The likes of Rush Limbaugh has hijacked the party and forcefully pulled it to the right where general elections are NOT won. Their centrist candidate, McCain, got crushed in the last election. The GOP has lost the last two election cycles. Continuing, the GOP does not seem to have any voice or set of ideas, and instead, choose to jump on anything and everything that the current administration.

This very clearly demonstrates the lack of respect Republicans hold for anyone that disagrees with them, which is most of the country! They cannot tolerate civil discourse because the facts do not support them.

No, it did not reflect the Republican Party, it reflected the American People as a whole. We all know that Obama is lying. There is NO WAY illegal will be exempt from this program, there is NO WAY a $900,000,000,000 program will not add to the deficit. And if it is such a great bill WHY are the members of congress not enrolled in it? Why do they get to keep their health plan and we get stuck with this one?

Rep Wilson is correct in saying what we all know, he just picked the wrong venue to voice his feelings. There is a time and a place.

In a nutshell, YES!

No. It just represents the mental state of the Republican Party in S. Carolina. Your question (which reads like a flack in the Democratic National Committee wrote it before having his morning coffee) makes as much sense as asking if Rod Blagojevich represents the state of the Democratic Party. Come to think of it....

For sure this is the state of the Republican Party. They are a dead party and are trying to claw their way from six feet under. President Obama is no liar and anyone that disagrees with him is racist.

Did the Democrats' shouting and booing during Bush's 2005 State of the Union represent them? Childish behavior has become normal political discourse because neither party can intelligently debate one another without calling the other racist, sexist, a Nazi or a communist. In today's age, it's all about the sound-byte.

@ LOL -
Shock and awe usually gets attention. I don't approve of what Sen. Wilson did. But, I work in a place where if you can't explain your project with a bumper sticker, it is going to fail. Really. Even a 15-second sound byte is too long for the attention span of most people.

saundra johnson@7:16: You are living proof that anyone who thought that race was not going to become a leverage tool if a person of color was elected had their head in the sand. Unfortunately, it is most often the person of color playing the race card. Hussein is only HALF African and probably less American.

S.S@7:17: "They have become a bitter party that seems unwilling to change, listen to differing opinions, and even remotely see the other side." Unlike democrats who KNOW their policies do not need to be changed or differed with, and that there is no "other side", only theirs, right? Policies that are so right that they need to be shoved down America's throat.

VeggieTart@8:13: "...unwilling to give one inch to actually help the people they supposedly serve." BOTH PARTIES have forgotten THEY serve US, not the other way around, so your finger-pointing is ridiculous.

No. It shows the thoughts of most Americans. They just do not speak out for fear of being targeted by this administration and its followers as being racist and for fear of being investigated more than anyone in this radical administration has been, especially Van Jones. Maybe if Liberals actually could read HR3200 they would see that there is no provision in the bill to stop illegal immigrants from getting coverage and multiple Republicans have offered a provision to exclude them from getting coverage, but Pelosi refuses to allow it. Then again Pelosi is from San Francisco which is a Sanctuary City.

VeggieTart,
You are clearly off your rocker and perhaps need some protein in your diet since it is good for muscle and obviously you could use some for what little brain you have remaining.

saundra johnson,
"His outburst only shows the Republican Party's willingness not to accept an African American as our President. I don't feel it has anything to do with the issues."
Clearly you are a racist lemonade licking lemming Liberal. I would venture a guess that you are black. Why is it ok for black on white racism Pastor Wright, but white on black is condemned? Neither is acceptable, so why the double standard. I thought Obama was supposed to unite us all in peace and harmony, but many American are now seeing their horrible mistake for voting for this poser.

MTL,
What about the 9 Trillion deficits in the works by the current administration or the fact that he has a bigger deficit than from GW to GWB COMBINED? Obama and you Loony Liberals condemned Bush for huge deficits, as I also do, but Obama is breaking all records when it comes to driving the car off the cliff. The only difference between GWB and BHO is that BHO has pushed the pedal to the medal and locked the wheel to drive us off the cliff. We need a third party, but I guarantee that if socialized medicine (public option) is passed where clearly the majority of Americans do not agree with this plan, then they will rightfully be replaced in 2010. Obama can not even get his fellow lemmings to follow him. He does not need a single Republican to pass his radical socialist agenda, yet he is hitting opposition FROM HIS OWN PARTY. This is funny that the great uniter can not even unite his own party. Democrats are a lost cause also. How can you injure the Democratic Party when they have NO MORALS? Just look at Edwards, Spitzer, and so on.

C'mon, folks, it was all planned! The guy's gonna be even more popular back in his crazy district come reelection time. *Everything's* political now, from heckling the president (which would have NEVER been done to Bush, lest people be branded as unpatriotic) to crazy scare tactics that serve corporate masters.

Whether you think Obama is lying or not, this is absurd. How long since Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq? Has anyone called him on it while he was making any similar type of speech? I think not.

The "state" of the Republican Party? What a stupid question! How about the state of frustration people all across this country feel at Obama getting away with his constant untruths?

No, his outburst reflects the state of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, of which he's a member. Sing it Joe! [Rep. Wilson bolts from chair, crimson-faced, sweating, raises arms, and shrieks] "O, I wish I were in the land of cotton, Old times there are not forgotten! Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land!!!"..... (Fade to members of Congress staring mouths agape in shock and horror)

What Representative Wilson did was disrespect the Office of the Presidency and the institution of Government with what was nothing less than a childish outburst. If childishness and disrespect are the norm in his District, then he did nothing wrong. On the other hand if the people he represents are respectful adults then he is no Representatve at all.

I don't think the comments show the state of the Republican party as it did more to draw attention to the smoke and mirrors of the Obama Administration. This health care plan of his is a terrible idea.

There is no doubt illegals will be in the system in the future. The liberal democrats' version of American Socialism is the big lie. Obama's pandering to them is the big truth. Congratulations to Rep. Wilson for speaking out.

For eight years any comments against the President were derided and talking heads screamed about respecting the Presidency. Suddenly, respecting the President and perhaps, more importantly, the Presidency, is a Republican talking point of the past. Just when we though their hypocrisy couldn't get any worse.

In a post-9/11 America, however demeaning and/or discgusting, I would rather be called racist than unpatriotic.

Is he ill-mannered and ill-informed? Of course yes, he does represent the state of the Republican party.

My buddy walked into the morning meeting at 7:45, and said the Steelers won in overtime last night. I jumped up and shouted: "You lie!" Boss Lady shouted at both of us: "Go get some coffee or something!" We drove through Herndon looking for coffee, so now we are going to try Lorton. TGIF.
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I believed in the Republican party's approach to government for over 35 years. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney destroyed my confidence in the party, and so I voted for Pres. Obama to let them know how angry I was. Now I see that the party has been reduced to a bunch of screaming whiners who spend all of their time criticizing the President and spending no time at all working for the American people. Sowing fear and mistrust, waving guns, and screaming like a petulant child does not fix health care. These are the actions of boorish thugs. They are not the actions of highly intelligent, civilized representatives of the people who so desperately need help in this country.

(and, no, i am not now a Democrat, or whatever childish inflammatory name you may wish to assign to that party.)

defense lib,
Where do you get your data? Look at the attached Rasmussen Report where Republicans lead Democrats by 7%. Socialized medicine is really hurting them and that is why the Blue Dogs are not going along with it. Obama can't win his own party over and Republicans are not needed to pass ANY BILL if the Democrats are UNITED. They are torn themselves and are a sinking ship as well.

Was Buf., Now Was. ,
Read Tim's post since your memory is a bit fuzzy.

BAS,
Have you been living under a rock this decade? The press is clearly Liberal and constantly bashed Bush for anything he did and rarely, if ever, mentioned all the work he did to combat AIDS in AFRICA. Where have you been since the 21st century started?

A reality check for Reality Checker

Here's the language of HR3200 regarding coverage for illegal aliens: "SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." Seems pretty straight forward. Or perhaps you're advocating repealing the current law of the land, which stipulates that emergency medical care cannot be denied to any person, irrespective of that individual's nationality? Yeah, that'd go over well. "Sorry your daughter bled to death while en route to the hospital, but we couldn't find her passport in her purse." Next!

Rep. Wilson's outburst reflects the state of the American Party. Anyone who disagrees needs to get in touch with the American people since the polls show clearly show that Americans disapprove of Obama's medical plans.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Learn to read Liberals and get in touch with the rest of America.

Forgot the Poll link on my last post.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

I am the racist (living in a biracial marriage) ,
Same here. I guess I am a racist (living in a biracial marriage) as well.

So, where is the lie? How do you keep illegals out of the system? Simple, the liberal machine just declares them legal then puts them in the system. No lie, just Obamaganda! We need more Rep. Wilsons.

@ Impostor Diogenes 9:04 AM
If you're going to impersonate me, at least have the decency to make your posts clever and/or controversial. Your last one was unpardonably dull.

Frustrated at being voiceless, ignored, and patronized? Yeah, I'd say it reflects the state of the party, and most of America, quite accurately.

The party of no: no ideas, no vision and no class.

What does this question even mean? What the "outburst" reflects is up to anyone's interpretation, so this question is impossible to answer with any meaning and consistency.

"His outburst only shows the Republican Party's willingness not to accept an African American as our President."

Statements like this just go to show others how delusional many people in the country are. When you're raised in a culture that tells you racism is rampant (or if you're old enough that it actually was) among educated and informed individuals, you start to see it even when it's not there. Anyone who thinks this or any other mainstream political protest has ANYTHING to do with race is either delusional or simply playing their cards, trying to squeeze out even more special benefits and privileges out of the system by feeding into this cultural political correctness. Stop it.

Has anyone asked why that particularly line prompted his outburst?

@ Reality Checker
Can you please cite chapter and verse where immigration reform appears in HR3200? I've scoured the text and can't find it. Thanks!

How many times, during the presidency of George W. Bush, did we hear the left (including the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) applauding those who SPOKE THE TRUTH TO POWER?

Now we are supposed to be outraged (along with Nancy Pelosi) that one congressman had the courage to SPEAK THE TRUTH TO POWER??

Oh, Please.

Can we please just MoveOn??

Yes, in that the state of the Republican party could be defined as "unable to be heard through traditional means". Obama came in with big talk of bipartisanship, and hasn't met with them in 6 months, Pelosi and Reid try to railroad them, and the media ignores or villifies them. Wilson's outburst has taken away from the other ways Republicans attempted to be heard Wednesday night, including the stacks of paper and the "What bill?" sign. These all reflect a growing frustration over bieng treated by the administration, congressional leadership, and media as red-haired stepchildren.

It clearly reflects how misinformed and ignorant Republicans are. How could anyone who's not a legal resident receive government-administered privileges? It's not like illegal aliens are currently able to get drivers licenses or attend public schools.

Lifted from the WSJ:
"The speech was especially notable for its use of one of Mr. Obama's favorite rhetorical devices: Noting in the first instance that his opponents have a good point, and entirely legitimate concerns, only to reject their ideas in toto when it comes to policy. Thus he endorsed the public's concern about the competence of government to manage one-sixth of the economy, only to finish with a soaring oration about the moral necessity of letting government do so." - The Wall Street Journal, see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574402871440089500.html
So maybe Wilson's outburst was disrespectful, but is someone saying the outrage isn't justified at all?

Durr@12:03PM: When the government doesn't, or isn't required, or is forbidden to ask the nationality and/or residency and/or citizenship of an individual, what is to prevent an illegal alien from obtaining government services. Your question clearly reflects how misinformed and ignorant those who support Obamacare are.

To Anon@10:54

11/4/08

@ Liar
Not a single proposal now on the table advocates the government taking over health care wholesale. So how on earth could the government suddenly become responsible for managing one-sixth of our nation's economy (i.e., health care's share)? Damn, no wonder our country is in such sorry financial shape. Even the WSJ can't get the numbers right.

It reflects how detached the GOP is from public, for whom they have no respect. I wonder if he (Wilson) works for the public or for the insurance companies.

This just goes to prove that the Party of Lincoln and TR is now the Party of Jefferson Davis and Elmer Gantry.

I love how any time a politician acts inappropriately, it's now a "reflection" of their entire party. All Republicans are rude, ala Wilson, and cheaters, ala Sanford. All Dems are corrupt, ala Blagojovich, and also cheaters, ala Edwards. Here's a better poll question: which is worse for a politician, cheating via taxpayer funds, or cheating on your cancer-patient wife? I'll go with via taxpayer funds.

The curent state of the Republican Party is the common state of almost EVERY out-party since Jefferson:
1) If the president is the defacto leader of the party, and the party doesn't occupy the WH meaning, the party has no president), then there is no clear leadership, and thus, no clear direction.
2) The primary objective of the outparty is to become the inparty again. One tactic is to find fault - wherever it can be found - and convince the electorate that the inparty is not the solution.
3) America often comes together in war and crisis, which includes the patriotism and bipartisanship on 12 Sep 2001 - even if it fades on 13 September. Without war or crisis - if everything is well (peace, economy humming, taxes low, no crime or pollution, etc) - the only job the outparty would have is to badmouth the opposition, with no fear of being called unpatriotic or unsupportive.
Looking at old DNC Websites from 2000 to spring 2003, the DNC's Chairman's message was that Al Gore is the man for America. How relative was that to a DNC platform in 2002? And, in what state was the DNC at that time? (see comments above)
That said, I agree that the opposition should use decorum and protocol. Leave shock and awe for war fighters and terrorists. Our elected leaders are supposed to be civilian role models, and serve us better in that capacity.

"Not a single proposal now on the table advocates the government taking over health care wholesale. So how on earth could the government suddenly become responsible for managing one-sixth of our nation's economy (i.e., health care's share)? Damn, no wonder our country is in such sorry financial shape. Even the WSJ can't get the numbers right."

They are probably referring to % of the GDP.

And the way government would become a monopoly in health care is by creating a government "option" and strangling private health care options with bureaucracy, taxes, regulations, requirements, fees, or whatever. This is why Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac grew so large and were so profitable--at first.

Of course we all know how that ended, huh. Let's try THAT again!

The republician party is clearly in a bad state with the social conservatives running the party off a cliff. Wilson is right about Obama's iies though. We are creating a new entitlment program for 46 million but Obama says we will save money. He says you can keep your insurance if you like it, at least until your employer no longer provides it or your insurer goes out of business because of the public option. He says illegals won't covered at least until he gives them their "path to citizianship' as promised. Our lawyer and chief will not do the right thing for taxpayers when it comes to keeping greedy trial lawyers happy regarding tort reform.

It reflected the chaos and lack of leadership in the GOP quite well, so yes.

@ George Washington
The fact is, health care already comprises 1/6 of the US economy. Therefore, if the WSJ asserts that by the government entering the health care business it will “manage one-sixth of the economy”, that means a 100% takeover. Whatever, I get it, you hate the government. Anyway, as I said yesterday, the president’s plan is doomed to failure. For that reason alone you should be cheering him on.

I guess it is ok for Harry Reid, but not Joe Wilson.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/07/politics/main693713.shtml
Like Democrats have not respected the POTUS? Both sides are guilty of it. What hypocrisy both sides are showing. I guess it just shows that it is ok for a Democrat to Boo Bush in the SOTU address, but not ok for Wilson to call Obama a liar which he truly is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxmEGG71PM

Dishonest Abe,
FYI, Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN! Maybe you should learn your history old man. What are you, like 200 now? WOW, what an accomplishment! Obama admires Lincoln. Now that is true HYPOCRACY!

Durr,
You forgot that it is not like Obama's illegal immigrant of an aunt is not getting welfare in Boston.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/04/judge_allows_ob.html
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-aunt-in-us-getting-welfare-illegally

defense lib,
Way to live in a bubble in the past. Get a clue and look at the current state of America. People clearly have buyers’ remorse for voting for Obama. That did not take long.

Diogenes @ 12:32 PM,
Pelosi, Frank, and Obama are all on record that the public option is the fastest way to get to a single payer system. What a loon you are. If the government heavily subsidizes health care, which they will, and can sell nationwide while the insurance companies can not, that clearly gives them an unfair advantage and will lead to single payer health care. There is another proposal in the Senate to tax private health care plans. What will that do to the cost of private health care? I doubt it will go down like the president suggests. Does that make him a liar? I think so. Either he is a liar or ignorant as all heck. Are you that blind that you can not read the writing on the walls? Clearly you need to stop drinking the D.C. water or Kool-Aid or whatever it is that you are drinking.

John D.,
Well said and good point.