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COMMENTS (63)
  • Fox News, because Fox News has been a laughingstock for a while now. They claim they are a newstation, but they never give the true facts or a unbias view. The White House has a right and a reason not to want to deal with that 'mickey mouse' operation.

    By dawn , Posted October 26, 2009 12:50 AM
  • Obama is just extending his policy of BLAME SOMEBODY ELSE for his failing policies.

    By STR , Posted October 26, 2009 4:30 AM
  • The White House definitely looks worse. This is reminiscent of the Nixon administration when they went after the New York Times and we all know how corrupt that administration was. I guess history has a way of repeating itself.

    By Common Kevin , Posted October 26, 2009 5:56 AM
  • When I first heard that the white house was taking a page out of the Nixon era play book and attacking the media I thought it was just an internet rumor to make Obama look bad. Then I heard the story on Fox news so it must be true.

    By MZ , Posted October 26, 2009 6:27 AM
  • There is no feud. The White House simply pointed out that Fox "News" is not in fact a news organization. Anyone with half a brain already knew that information. They act like an arm of the Republican party so they should be treated as such.

    By NikkiB , Posted October 26, 2009 6:44 AM
  • The way things are going, being outed by Obama will be considered a badge of honer.

    By REG , Posted October 26, 2009 6:47 AM
  • Obama is showing how thin-skinned of a cry baby he really is. This is just Chicago-style politics at its finest. The same could be said about the NYT, MSNBC, Huffington Post, Washington Post, .... These "news" organizations are not real news organizations and are seriously biased to the left. Maybe this is why some of them are asking for federal bailouts since they are in bed with Obama in the first place and failing miserably.
    NikkiB = Anita Dunn = Mao Tse-Tung = dawn

    By LOL , Posted October 26, 2009 7:20 AM
  • Of course the partisan players in this daily post wil come out in favor of their team. Prior to their posting, I would hope they imagine the response if the party roles were reversed (i.e. - a Bush WH declaring the same statements of their opposition). I am not trying to get everyone to play nice in the sandbox; rather, I would like to hear comments concerning Federal employees offering opinions.
    David Corn http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10/21/why-the-white-house-shouldnt-play-chicken-with-fox/# (I don't agree with all items there) notes that the WH - regardless of party - should remain above. Further, he goes on to say that Obama was elected to be a uniter, not a divider.
    My point here is the current feud will be a footnote in the history of both "sides" and resorting to ugly will only tarnish that footnote. I hope to hear what the commuters have to say, minus the Bush bashing and Obama bashing.

    By John D , Posted October 26, 2009 7:44 AM
  • The question presupposes Faux News has looked good....ever.

    Hey, and lets not forget GW Bush threatened CBS with (DoJ) legal action during his reign of terror.

    By V , Posted October 26, 2009 8:05 AM
  • Is Fox News really a news station? Learn something new every day.

    By Frank , Posted October 26, 2009 8:24 AM
  • No question - the White House. Without defending his defects, Bush put up with partisan attacks from the Democratic suits at NBC, CBS, ABC and MSNBC for eight years without staging the kind of whining public tantrums we're hearing from the White House flacks. If the Obama White House can't even do as well as the Bush crew in this respect, it says oodles about both their lack of experience and their lack of professionalism.

    By Hartland Hank , Posted October 26, 2009 8:36 AM
  • The White House is the big loser in this case since they can not take criticism from anyone. That is why they put a gag order on Humana because they did not go along with their medical takeover and that is why the WH is attacking the Chamber of Commerce because they also oppose the government takeover of our freedom in America. Maybe Obama agrees with all the radicals in his administration like Van Jones who is a devote communist and Obama wishes to be officially crowned King. What would the left have done if Bush did this? Why is MSNBC/GE failing if they are such a great organization? I will never purchase another GE product after learning that they are directly responsible for our soldiers’ deaths by selling components to terrorists that were used in roadside bombs that have killed our soldiers. I would venture to say that Fox News is more balanced than MSNBC, NYT, and Huffington Post combined. If Fox News is so biased, then why do they have ALL of the top ten spots in “Cable News?” The WH is really “acting stupidly” for attacking Fox in public in that they are just driving more free-thinking Americans to watch Fox to see what all the buzz is about.
    John D,
    Very good point, but will likely never happen. If Obama is such a uniter, why is he desperately trying to divide the country down party lines and against those that oppose him?

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 8:38 AM
  • Why focus on Fox? Obama also accused Stephanopoulos of making stuff up when he dared to disagree.

    By brad2 , Posted October 26, 2009 8:49 AM
  • Fox News. All the news the Democrats don't want the people that are paying there salaries to hear. The only news organization that is more balanced than Fox is C-SPAN. The only difference is that C-SPAN doesn't dig for the real dirt politicians don't want you to hear, Fox does.

    Keep up the good work Fox.

    By truth , Posted October 26, 2009 8:50 AM
  • Regrettably, it's the White House. By attacking FOX News, the president and his staff have elevated the network to a status it doesn't deserve. Either grant them interviews and rebut their claims or ignore them altogether, but don't play this childish game of name-calling. Quite simply, it's beneath the president's dignity.

    By Diogenes , Posted October 26, 2009 8:51 AM
  • With the exception of Andrew Napolitano and now John Stossel, Fox News is a shill for the neocons. It appears that BHO lacks the cojones to subject himself to the critical questioning that Fox might submit. He'd much rather take the slow-pitch softball questions from the other news networks that are obviously shills for the liberals. I don't recall neocon GWB pulling such a stunt with CNN or MSNBC. I get most of my news and analysis from the internet--until the liberals and neocons band together to suppress its content.

    By NoChildLeft , Posted October 26, 2009 9:33 AM
  • Fox News. If you could call that "news." But only because they've never looked good to me. At the same time I reluctantly agree with Diogenes. The WH didn't need to bother atacking Fox Probably should have granted them an interview....

    By Lowspark , Posted October 26, 2009 9:43 AM
  • @ John D
    Answering your critics may be viewed by some as lending legitimacy to the charges. When a celeb gets into a public contest with a tabloid over a "UFO-bourne Elvis love child" then the attention only serves to keep the story in the news cycle longer, and each airing brings it closer to prime time legitimate networks. From my Marine days, I learned never to wrestle with a grunt or a pig - you only accomplish a roll in the mud, and the grunt and/or pig loves it.

    By Skins Fan , Posted October 26, 2009 10:10 AM
  • Fox is not a news network. It's the media wing for the RNC.

    By Dishonest Abe , Posted October 26, 2009 10:20 AM
  • They both look bad but FOX looks worse. Why do you ask us to take sides? Everyone knows FOX is the De Facto voice of the Neo-Con branch of the Republican Party. What other "news" station sponsors the "FOX News Tea Party" and town hall meetings like they did to attack the President I applaud the administration for their frontal attack on FOX. So now FOX is spending all of its time whining about this and Obama is moving on. Can FOX do any more than what they have already done and what they have done is attack the President on every issue.

    By gregs , Posted October 26, 2009 10:26 AM
  • I have to say this makes the White House look bad. They're the ones who tauted themselves as post-partisan...Fox News never made that claim.

    By chris , Posted October 26, 2009 10:33 AM
  • No question - the White House. Without defending his defects, Bush put up with partisan attacks from the Democratic suits at NBC, CBS, ABC and MSNBC for eight years without staging the kind of whining public tantrums we're hearing from the White House flacks. If the Obama White House can't even do as well as the Bush crew in this respect, it says oodles about both their lack of experience and their lack of professionalism.


    By Hartland Hank , Posted October 26, 2009 8:36 AM
    ***********************
    Remember how all of the sudden the three anchors of CBC, NBC and ABC all of sudden "retired" for attacking Bush? Remember Cheney and Rove only going on FOX to spew his lies. He finally came on the other networks after leaving office? So they called FOX out for what it is. Freedom of speech is a two way street.

    By gregs , Posted October 26, 2009 10:39 AM
  • Obama and his administration are solely responsible for the "feud" and its results. It is too bad the president can not take honest criticism. It is amazing to see all the lemmings posting negative comments about Fox just because Almighty Obama told them that Fox is "evil." If these lemmings actually watched Fox and compared it with other "news" channels they would realize that although a few shows are "conservative-based" (and clearly labeled as such) the channel as a whole is far more neutral than the others (MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and so on.) I just wonder what the White House is trying to accomplish while we are distracted by this "feud." Oh yeah, they are trying to rush through "Health Care Reform" and "Crap and Tax" while we are looking at "evil" Fox.

    By Hmmmm , Posted October 26, 2009 10:55 AM
  • @ Just Saying!

    You asked, "If Fox News is so biased, then why do they have ALL of the top ten spots in 'Cable News'?" The answer is, because they're the only cable news purveyor that caters exclusively to a conservative audience. The other media outlets --i.e., ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, etc-- must seek to attract a splintered audience of viewers, which in turn waters down their individual shares. It doesn't take a PhD in mathematics to figure this out. But then, I suspect you knew that all along.

    @ truth

    And PBS? How do they compare balance-wise with FOX News?

    By Diogenes , Posted October 26, 2009 11:06 AM
  • I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.

    By John Stewart Mill , Posted October 26, 2009 11:14 AM
  • I would expect the White House to engage Fox News and encourage robust debate. That would look presidential. That would look like a constitutional lawyer.

    By another person , Posted October 26, 2009 11:37 AM
  • An extract, just as a public service for Express Fans:
    "... Thursday, the administration tried to make [the MSM] complicit in an actual boycott of Fox. The Treasury Dept made available Ken Feinberg, the executive pay czar, for interviews with the White House 'pool' news organizations -- except Fox. The other networks admirably refused, saying they would not interview Feinberg unless Fox was permitted to as well. The administration backed down. This was an important defeat because there's a principle at stake here. While government can and should debate and criticize opposition voices, the current White House goes beyond that. It wants to delegitimize any significant dissent. The objective is no secret. White House aides openly told Politico that they're engaged in a deliberate campaign to marginalize and ostracize recalcitrants, from Fox to health insurers to the US Chamber of Commerce. There's nothing illegal about such search-and-destroy tactics. Nor unconstitutional. But our politics are defined not just by limits of legality or constitutionality. We have norms, Madisonian norms. [James] Madison argued that the safety of a great republic, its defense against tyranny, requires the contest between factions or interests. His insight was to understand 'the greater security afforded by a greater variety of parties.' They would help guarantee liberty by checking and balancing and restraining each other -- and an otherwise imperious government. Factions should compete, but they should also recognize the legitimacy of other factions and, indeed, their necessity for a vigorous self-regulating democracy. Seeking to deliberately undermine, delegitimize and destroy is not Madisonian." --columnist Charles Krauthammer http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/23/white_house_tactics_go_too_far.html#

    By PoliGroupie , Posted October 26, 2009 11:48 AM
  • At some point Obama's going to have to stop campaigning and start governing. That may mean having to deal with a little criticism. Since he seems to have built his political career primarily on being charismatic and lovable, it'll be interesting to see how he reacts to his declining popularity. If his reaction to Fox is any indication, it should be a pretty good show.

    By Special Olympic Bowler , Posted October 26, 2009 11:50 AM
  • Diogenes,
    If Fox News is "the only cable news purveyor that caters exclusively to a conservative audience" then why are 46% of their viewers either Democrats or Independents? Why do, according to a recent Gallup poll, 40% of Americans consider themselves conservative and only 21% consider themselves Liberal? You are a dying breed and I suggest you just cut to the chase and end it. I guess, in your case, you do need a PhD in mathematics since you obviously can not open your eyes long enough to see that you are sadly mistaken. Stop drinking the crack laden D.C. water. I am concerned about your mental state and the cost of health care to take care of your dementia.
    http://www.newsmax.com/john_lott/fox_new_york_times_/2009/09/17/261224.html
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/poll-almost-50-of-fox-news-audience-are-democrats-and-independents/

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 11:50 AM
  • Your opinion probably depends on who you thought looked worse, the naked emperor or the child who pointed out that he had no clothes.

    By Special Olympic Bowler , Posted October 26, 2009 11:53 AM
  • Your opinion probably depends on who you thought looked worse, the naked emperor or the child who pointed out that he had no clothes.


    By Special Olympic Bowler , Posted October 26, 2009 11:53 AM
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    I think its the other way. I emperor pointed out that FOX has no clothes. Thank you President Obama for standing up to FOX. I wath FOX and then watch Keith and Rachael expose their lies. Now that's being fair and balanced. I like the Daily Show most of all for exposing all this for what it is. B.S.

    By gs , Posted October 26, 2009 12:05 PM
  • This is a slam dunk. The White House looks foolish going up against Fox News. All they are accomplishing is legitimizing a third-rate news entertainment network.

    By MildlyMisanthropic , Posted October 26, 2009 12:19 PM
  • @ Just Saying!

    Nice try, but I'm not buying it. Honestly, citing two anti-Democratic sources (i.e., Newsmax and League of American Voters) to prove your assertions is ridiculous. You might as well have quoted Rod Blagojevich on ethics in politics. Yes, I'm fully aware he's a Democrat. By the way, some of us fiscal conservatives/social progressives watch FOX News from time to time just for the laughs (you never know who's going to crawl out of that clown car!). Sadly, many of the network's viewers are unable to discern news from entertainment.

    By Diogenes , Posted October 26, 2009 12:33 PM
  • @ GS:
    In the comment you quote, I do not say whether I believe Obama or Fox is the emperor. Interesting that you feel so defensive toward the Dear Leader that you must defend him from criticisms that you merely infer.

    By Special Olympic Bowler , Posted October 26, 2009 12:55 PM
  • Diogenes,
    Just as I would not cite the CBS-WP poll on health care to show that Americans were for the government takeover of health care that you Democrats like to cite as proof for the government option. I do give Democrats a little credit and assume that they are not so stupid as to admit defeat and the loss of your base to Fox News. Then again, the White House was stupid enough, by your own admonition, to come out publicly against Fox News. I love the fact that the Democrats running Detroit can not even sell a house for $500. Democrats have really ruined that ghost town of a city. Is there a triving Democrat run city in the U.S.? Let's see how fast they can ruin D.C. Funny how the top 5 cities in the U.S. for jobs are all in Texas which is dominated by REPUBLICANS. Thank the Lord that I do not live in the District.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091025/us_nm/us_usa_housing_detroit
    http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/13/best-big-cities-jobs-opinions-columnists-employment_slide_2.html?thisspeed=25000

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 1:15 PM
  • Special Olympic Bowler,
    I thought your quote was priceless and perfect for the situation.

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 1:17 PM
  • How can FOX look any worse? Why is FOX so ashame to say they are behind the Republican Party of NO and against anything the democrats do? Anyone with a brain in their heads who watches FOX can see that. I mean, the FOX TEA Party and Clown Hall meetings says it all.

    By sherard , Posted October 26, 2009 1:21 PM
  • The look the same to me. Its an opinion of an opinionated station. Why are we talking about which one is worse? I don't think an entire organization should be judged by a few commentaries, any more than I think it is fair to judge CNN by the things that Lou Dobbs says. Major Garrett used to work at CNN. Bill Hemmer used to work at CNN. Greta Van Susteren used to work at CNN. Chris Wallace used to work at ABC and NBC. Did they all drink the Kool-Aid when they went there? Sometimes, Fox's reflexive opposition to Obama bleeds into its news coverage, but I don't think it's fair to tar everyone with the same brush. Ailes sets the agenda. Even if certain people working on Fox haven't been drinking the "Kool-aid" the cable network is a propaganda arm of the Neo-con Republican Party and not the true conservatives. Jane Hall said in an interview with CNN that the reason she left was in part because they've had less debates than they used to. In other words, it used to be "Hannity and Colmes," now it's just Hannity. It used to be Bernard Goldberg and Jane. Now it's just Bernie. She also said “I'm also, frankly, uncomfortable with Beck, who I think should be called out as somebody whose language is way over the top. And it's scary”. . If you don't like Obama saying what he said fine, but the truth is the truth.

    By gws , Posted October 26, 2009 1:45 PM
  • Clearly Barnum, Bailey and Barack look worse in this fued. Just think without Fox news your tax dollars would still be funding criminal operations like ACORN and communists like Van Jones salaries. I am sure Stalin woud be proud to see how Obama goes after his enemys. The white house announced today that this entire controversy is Bush's fault.

    By JP , Posted October 26, 2009 2:23 PM
  • Some folk spend too much time watching Fox News and the Disney Chennel. A partial recollection of the Bush administration’s wrongdoings against the media include:
    -Paying Armstrong Williams, Michael McManus, and Maggie Gallagher and others for favorable opinions about WH policies or to attack opponents of the WH.
    -Planting Jeff Gannon to lob softball questions.
    -Used reporters to out a CIA agent, then sat by and watched reporters go to jail to protect their sources.
    -Fed reporters misinformation about WMD in Iraq, then used those reporters stories as corroborating evidence of the existence of WMD in Iraq.
    -treated Helen Thomas like a leper.
    -waged a coordinated campaign against NBC.
    -kicked all the NY Times reporters off of their planes.
    -the Pentagon Pundit program, which sold the war by planting former military officers on networks. Uncovering this story earned a journalist the fucking Pulitzer.
    -Staged mock press conferences with FEMA employees pretending to be reporters.
    -allowed Ari Fleischer to tell everyone (but directed at journalists) they needed to “watch what they say and what they do."
    - imprisoned foreign journalists covering the various occupations.
    - explicitly threatened to criminally prosecute New York Times journalists.
    - inserted ex-Pentagon "military analyst"/domestic propaganda program to bolster support for two illegal invasions of sovereign countries.

    By Bush sinned...again and again and.... , Posted October 26, 2009 2:30 PM
  • @ Diogenes 0851

    I have to disagree with you. Faux News is the leading participant in organizing, promoting and fueling protests, including street protests, against the government. This is not a news organization. It has taken on a political role, and as such, is fair game.

    By V , Posted October 26, 2009 2:36 PM
  • Diogenes,
    Just as I would not cite the CBS-WP poll on health care to show that Americans were for the government takeover of health care that you Democrats like to cite as proof for the government option. I do give Democrats a little credit and assume that they are not so stupid as to admit defeat and the loss of your base to Fox News. Then again, the White House was stupid enough, by your own admonition, to come out publicly against Fox News. I love the fact that the Democrats running Detroit can not even sell a house for $500. Democrats have really ruined that ghost town of a city. Is there a triving Democrat run city in the U.S.? Let's see how fast they can ruin D.C. Funny how the top 5 cities in the U.S. for jobs are all in Texas which is dominated by REPUBLICANS. Thank the Lord that I do not live in the District.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091025/us_nm/us_usa_housing_detroit
    http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/13/best-big-cities-jobs-opinions-columnists-employment_slide_2.html?thisspeed=25000
    By Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 1:15 PM
    ************************
    Funny how the State with the TOP capital punishment is TEXAS and 13 in the poverty rate is TEXAS, number 4 with the highest prison rate. Also, all the top states in all these statistics are RED states.

    Thank the Lord that I do not live in the TEXAS!!!!

    http://cssrc.us/pubs/090813_Prison_Data.pdf

    By greg , Posted October 26, 2009 2:39 PM
  • @ Just Saying!

    You wrote: "Just as I would not cite the CBS-WP poll on health care..." Well, except that you just did, Brainiac. Incidentally, we citizens of Virginia don't have to register with any political party, so your crack about my being a Democrat is flat wrong. In fact, I've felt free to vote for Republicans, Democrats and independents since the day I turned 18. It's called being politically objective. A pity your parents didn't teach you the same. As for the rest of your tedious rant, well, it isn't worth the keystrokes to rebut. *yawn*

    P.S. "By [my] own admonition"? I don't even know what you're trying to say here. Time to cut out those 3-martini lunches!

    By Diogenes , Posted October 26, 2009 2:55 PM
  • While I certainly don't think Fox News is fair and balanced, it's not the White House's place to be telling the public which news organizations to listen to.

    By Brad Hartland , Posted October 26, 2009 3:07 PM
  • Wow. I find it amazing that so many of the "Quit picking on Barack!" comments on here are of the "Yeah, well Bush was even worse!" variety. Has it really taken less than ten months for all of the mindless YesWeCanners to go from "Hope" and "Change" to "He's not as bad as the last guy"?

    By 57th State , Posted October 26, 2009 3:07 PM
  • @ V

    With all due respect, I believe you missed the point of my original post. I never claimed Fox is a legitimate news organization. Far from it. What I said is that by attacking the network, President Obama is elevating it to a status it doesn't deserve. Incidentally, I agree with your observation about Fox ginning up news stories, which it then promotes and covers ad infinitum (see Teabagger-9/12 rally). That's neither fair, nor balanced. Rather, it's deceitful and corrosive to the public trust.

    By Diogenes , Posted October 26, 2009 3:17 PM
  • y Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 1:15 PM
    ************************
    Funny how the State with the TOP capital punishment is TEXAS and 13 in the poverty rate is TEXAS, number 4 with the highest prison rate. Also, all the top states in all these statistics are RED states.

    Thank the Lord that I do not live in the TEXAS!!!!

    http://cssrc.us/pubs/090813_Prison_Data.pdf
    By greg , Posted October 26, 2009 2:39 PM
    ***********************
    Oh I forgot to mention that TEXAS is number 16 in the highest crime rate.

    Texas sounds like HELL of a place.

    And the greatest murderer, you got it, Bush from Texas

    By greg , Posted October 26, 2009 3:18 PM
  • V,
    I guess all the anti-war protestors and those protesting Obama in PA recently were also astroturf, huh? The same could be said about MSNBC during the last 8 years? Where is your outrage there? Or does it only apply to conservatives who outnumber liberals almost two to one.
    greg,
    Good try, but D.C. is number 2 on the poverty list. You would think Obama and Congress could help those next to them in D.C.
    Diogenes,
    “Regrettably, it's the White House. By attacking FOX News, the president and his staff have elevated the network to a status it doesn't deserve. Either grant them interviews and rebut their claims or ignore them altogether, but don't play this childish game of name-calling. Quite simply, it's beneath the president's dignity.” You really need help if your memory is that short.
    Shows what little you know there coward of a loon. I do not drink alcohol. Until you have served your country like all the MEN in your family you can keep your cowardice to yourself. I have also voted for both parties, but see Obama for what he is: an inexperienced radical with no clue what he is doing. Let me guess, you turned 18 just last year, huh? Please get out of your parents’ basement you rich spoiled brat and learn how to actually communicate with people instead of mooching off mommy in her basement with your many questionable videos.

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 3:20 PM
  • I thought it was established that it's only news when you blindly endorse Obama and only report what the White House gives you approval to report. Anyone who dare question our Dear Leader must be a tool of the right and everything they say or do must be looked at with suspicion. This country is big enough for free thought and differing opinions.

    By N Early , Posted October 26, 2009 3:46 PM
  • greg,
    All this can likely be attributed to one factor. Texas has the second highest ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION population. California is number one and has a higher crime rate than Texas and I would never live there either.
    http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_est_num_of_ill_imm-people-estimated-number-illegal-immigrants

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 26, 2009 3:52 PM
  • It amazing how you think I am living in my mom's basement who, by the way, died last year at 94 years old. You also assume I never served my country. By the way, you were talking about good old TEXAS remember? When you assume you make an ass out of yourself. As for the protests in PA, did you see any cable news station promoting this "movement"? No. Who motivated the man to kill Tiller ll the abortion doctor or to kill the guard at the Holocaust museum. Bill O'Reilly, was playing the role of victim in the murder of Dr. George Tiller, but it’s accurate to say O'Reilly bears some responsibility for the doctor's death. He might as well have pulled the trigger. He kept calling him a murderer and he has blood on his hands. . No, he just portrayed Tiller as a blood thirsty murderer. No, he never called for Tiller to be killed; he just yelled fire in a crowded theater. I wonder how many Beck will get to killed with his hateful rhetoric?

    By greg , Posted October 26, 2009 4:04 PM
  • @ Just Saying!

    Much of the confusion could have been avoided if you had posted under your more infamous persona: i.e., Common Kevin. By the way, I'm not buying your "no alcohol" act. No one would post such half-baked rubbish sober!!!

    By Diogenes , Posted October 26, 2009 4:12 PM
  • In your Monday morning Fox News vs. White House update, we have this from Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume, who tells the LATimes' Matea Gold: "We may be No. 1, but there is sort of an insurgent quality to Fox News. And that's kind of our attitude: 'Hoist a Jolly Roger, pull out our daggers and look for more throats to slit.' This is tremendous fodder for us. My lord, we've been living on it."

    And from the New Yorker's Louis Menand:

    It's hard to kill the press, but it is not hard to chill it, and this appears to be the White House's goal in the case of Fox.

    By greg , Posted October 26, 2009 4:20 PM
  • Unfortunately, the White House is the one who looks the worst arguing and bickering with a network that has about as much credibility as the National Enquirer. The question should be why aren't the so-called other real news networks taking Fox to task for their lack of truth, their lack of desire to report the truth, and the blatant disrespect from Fox in relation to how they present our Commander in Chief to the world. The White House needs to stay focused on fixing our ills, not fixing Fox's Ailes (as in Roger Ailes).

    By Reggie , Posted October 26, 2009 4:28 PM
  • @ Just Saying!

    Please enlighten us when MSNBC organized street protests.

    I am outraged at the direction the media is heading. The news outlets should be providing investigative reporting, not being an organ for the government by parroting media releases, and certainly not providing entertainment.

    One only need look at what passes for political "news". Most of the time it is quoting "anonymous" sources. Rarely does a news outlet state sources.

    Trust no-one. Don't believe anything that comes from the media. Do your own research using published, peer-reviewed data, then decide.

    We await your evidence that MSNBC organized street protests during the Bush Administration.

    By V , Posted October 26, 2009 4:36 PM
  • "Judge Justice [deceased] dragged Texas into the 20th century, God bless him," said former Lt. Gov. Bill Hobby last week, who presided over the Texas Senate from 1973 to 1991.

    Straight from the ass' mouth. Too bad we are now in the 21st century.

    By While we are laughing at Texas... , Posted October 26, 2009 5:04 PM
  • Even Helen Thomas thinks Obama's attack on Fox is stupid.

    But the best crack about the news outlets was from Jay Leno several years ago. Jay announced that Al Gore was going to start a Liberal News Network. Jay paused and said "What.... ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS and MSNBC aren't enough!?!?" So what if Fox presents a conservative viewpoint in its evening shows? You sure can't find that anywhere else. What is great about Fox is all the liberals who get to be on it and state their case. Also great is they actually have the brass to go after news that the liberal media won't touch, like the totally corrupt ACORN. Oh, did I mention that like a third of Fox viewers, I am a registered Democrat? Another third, at least, are independents. Rather odd for the so called outlet of the Republican Party that only a third of its viewers are, well, Republicans. My guess is most of the invective aimed at Fox from the Obamabots here are from folks who NEVER watched it. Another guess: as unemployment continues to climb and taxes go up with the deficits, Fox New's ratings will skyrocket even higher.

    By Amused , Posted October 26, 2009 5:25 PM
  • I'm tried of all of this.
    Comedy Central should make the Daily Show into a 24/7 newscast. The crews might be liberal, but they are not afraid to take unbias shots at everyone and it's funny to watch.

    By Anonymous , Posted October 26, 2009 5:45 PM
  • Could you imagine what would have happened if the Bush camp had come against CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, and all the other more left leaning agencies?

    By Adam , Posted October 26, 2009 9:30 PM
  • greg,
    Hey moron. Here, I am adding spaces between posts so your old eyes can see more clearly who I am writing to. Maybe you can learn to read while you are at it since that post was to Diogenes. The reason you didn't see anything about the G20 riots in Pittsburg was because they were AGAINST your Almighty and God forbid the MSM actually cover his scandals. Here is an article about it since you are too clueless to find it yourself. As for Tiller the Baby Killer, what about Pro-Lifer Drake who was killer in Michigan earlier this year? The MSM is seriously biased and reports no news that does not advance their Liberal agenda. Maybe that is why Obama even stated himself that they are in bed together. The guard at the Holocaust museum was a wacko plain and simple. You are a typical left wingnut to blindly blame O'Reilly for his death. Do you blame Obama and ALL Liberals for the death of Drake for being pro-abortion? I do not since I think it was a single nutcase who acted alone. All you hardcore Liberals attack at the slightest crazy that comes to life and try to twist it to fit your crack head agenda. Wake up and smell the coffee old man. Poor baby, do you need a tissue?
    http://pittsburgh.about.com/b/2009/09/25/pittsburgh-is-calm-after-yesterdays-g-20-riots.htm
    http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/sep/09091106.html

    Diogenes,
    What are you ranting about now? There you go again thinking that anyone that posts something against your Dear Leader is this Common Kevin in disguise. You really need to seek help for your paranoia.

    V,
    MSNBC with the help of ACORN coordinated the AIG Protests. By the way, the morons at MSNBC (Olbermann, Maddow, and warm-fuzzy running up his leg Matthews) couldn't organize their planner if they had more than a single thing to do in a day. MSNBC and GE are FAILING and asking for bailouts. It is just a matter of time before they declare bankruptcy and fade away. Even Microsoft wants out. Abrams has failed and Griffin is failing even more. Olbermann is a serious loon. He and Matthews were so biased as news anchors that they gave them their own shows in an attempt to keep the idiots employed. Your love of a dying network is hilarious.
    http://newsbusters.org/node/7563
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x30936#
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090800008.html
    http://broadcastengineering.com/news/msnbc-owner-microsoft-20050313/
    http://rsmccain.blogspot.com/2009/03/msnbc-omits-facts-on-aig-protests.html#

    Amused,
    You are so right.

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 27, 2009 10:02 AM
  • MSNBC is removing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as the anchors of live political events, bowing to growing criticism that they are too opinionated to be seen as neutral in the heat of the presidential campaign.
    *****************************
    My point exactly. They removed them for being too opinionated. Why don't FOX do the same? Do you remember Hannity meeting at the Bush Whitehorse on the eve of the 2006 mid tun election? No fuss there was there? Oh and the one about not other network carrying the FOX news Tea Party is a lie too. Just because the other stations did not promote it 24 hours a day does not mean they did not broadcast it at all. Thanks for the right wing web sites. Now I understand your ignorance.

    Oh This just in from the Department of the Obvious: Remember Scott McClellan admiting to Chris Matthews that the White House made a deliberate effort to use FOX News commentators like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly to disseminate White House talking points?.

    Matthews: "Did you see FOX television as a tool when you were in the White House? As a useful avenue to get your message out?"

    McClellan: "I make a distinction between the journalists and the commentators. Certainly there were commentators and other, pundits at FOX News, that were useful to the White House." [...] That was something we at the White House, yes, were doing, getting them talking points and making sure they knew where we were coming from.

    Matthews: "So you were using these commentators as your spokespeople."

    McClellan: "Well, certainly."

    Straight from the source. Enough with the "fair and balanced" crap already.

    By greg , Posted October 27, 2009 10:25 AM
  • It is clear that you work at the Express since my posting was not on the website until after 10:25 AM (your posting time) so you can stop with your biased Liberal crap as well. If you can not take the heat then get out of the kitchen! By the way, your punctuation is terrible and maybe you should go back to grade school. FOX may lean conservative, but MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and any other "news" network I am leaving out are blatantly liberal. What is wrong with free speech when FOX is outnumbered at least 6 to one, yet they have more viewers than the rest COMBINED including DEMOCRATS. Sorry to disappoint, but 40% of Americans consider themselves conservative while only 20% consider themselves liberal so you are outnumbered at least two to one. Sorry that I hit a nerve and made you cry. Face the music that America is rising up because we do not approve of the CHANGE of our country into SOCIALIST EUROPE. If you prefer Europe, then do us all a favor and MOVE THERE!

    By Just Saying! , Posted October 27, 2009 11:01 AM
  • It is clear that you work at the Express since my posting was not on the website until after 10:25 AM (your posting time) so you can stop with your biased Liberal crap as well. If you can not take the heat then get out of the kitchen! By the way, your punctuation is terrible and maybe you should go back to grade school. FOX may lean conservative, but MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and any other "news" network I am leaving out are blatantly liberal. What is wrong with free speech when FOX is outnumbered at least 6 to one, yet they have more viewers than the rest COMBINED including DEMOCRATS. Sorry to disappoint, but 40% of Americans consider themselves conservative while only 20% consider themselves liberal so you are outnumbered at least two to one. Sorry that I hit a nerve and made you cry. Face the music that America is rising up because we do not approve of the CHANGE of our country into SOCIALIST EUROPE. If you prefer Europe, then do us all a favor and MOVE THERE!
    By Just Saying! , Posted October 27, 2009 11:01 AM
    ******************

    Then why did the conservative lose? America, according to whom is rising up, FOX? Glenn Beck? And there you go telling us to leave. This is not YOUR country. Its OUR country.Who the hell are you to tall me to leave? Yes, socialism. A.K.A. our democratically elected President. You know what ... I think you might be confusing socialism with losing. But see, when the guy that you disagree with gets elected, he's probably going to do things you disagree with. He could cut taxes on the wealthy. Remove government's oversight capability. Invade a country that you thought should not be invaded but that's no imperialism or socialism, its democracy .
    See now you're in the minority. It's supposed to taste like sh.t.. And by the way, if I remember correctly when a disagreement was expressed about that President's actions when ya'll were in power I believe the response was "Why do you hate America?". "Watch what you say." "Love it or leave it." "or you are unpatriotic or un American.".....

    For god's sake guys. You've been out of power for months. You've got a mid-term election next months. Pace your rage and wining.

    By greg , Posted October 27, 2009 2:20 PM
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